Buffy Relationships (A polite, and civil place to discuss Buffy ship opinions!)

Special mention for Owen, who I did not hate and who I thought would be a good match for Buffy before she realised vampires 'got her hot'. He was into poetry, he was thoughtful and seemed sweet natured, but he was also into the fighting.
Omg.Thank you.I always thinked Owen would be best match for her
mostly stay out of ship wars these days, as I know Buffy belongs with Angel 😉
You seems to hate Buffy.

Buffy belonges herself not a 240+ vampire who stalked her when She is 15.

Hard no on any of them as endgame but I can appreciate the growth they all offer her. I’ll always be Team Cookie Dough
My actual mind is this...👏



Buffy said She "loves" Spike.End of discussion.I am not even Spuffy
 
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Okay, I'm gonna nip this very much in the bud.

You seems to hate Buffy.

It's a little insulting that you would make such an assumption based on my shipping preferences. Also, saying that Angel "stalked" Buffy is blatantly ignoring the context of Becoming.
Yes, please do read the title and start of this thread! This is a highly divisive topic, and I insist on this being a place people can freely discuss their opinions without anyone causeing them grief.

We happily respect your opinions, and we ask you do the same. We're all people with different thoughts, feelings, views and stories. Be kind. 🙂


I'll take a moment to repost my original rules of the thread:

1: These are all opinions about a show. DO NOT make fun of, or personally attack those whose opinions you don't agree with. Sure! Provide a counter point, or a reason why you personally don't agree, but if what you say has to do with the PERSON, you are doing this wrong.
2: If you don't have something kind or constructive to say, don't say it. Again, feel free to counter point, but if you are writing it angrily, or bashing a character someone clearly likes, please think twice.


As you were. 👍
 
Buffy said She "loves" Spike.End of discussion.I am not even Spuffy
But just before saying that you like a message from faded90 saying that he is team cookie dough speech and added « my actual mind » 🤔
And at the end « Buffy said she loves Spike. end of discussion ! «

is it just me or you are completely contradictory ?
 
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Paulrina
I still ship neither.But I am not ignoring canon
Great thread!

I think my feelings on Buffy’s ships are that they each represent a stage of her life.

Bangel is the relationship she needed when she was growing in power. Her life was changing and growing so rapidly that she needed someone to anchor her and be a constant and static force. Angel is very much that. He’s a great pillar that Buffy can come to and talk with (and smooch) who is thoughtful, considerate, and well-versed in demonic matters.

Ruffy was the relationship she needed when she was uncertain of her power. Losing Angel and going to college was a massive change for Buffy. All of a sudden, nothing made sense anymore and the entire world got turned on its head. The formula of “go to library, research demon, kill demon, repeat” wasn’t there anymore. As such, she tried something new by dating a regular (ish) person with Riley. This was a new time in her life, and Riley was a new experience.

Spuffy, to me, is her relationship endgame. Spike and Buffy are both characters who started off vulnerable, came into serious power, and used that power for their own goals: Spike for evil and Buffy for good. They are, essentially, two sides of the same coin in a way that Bangel and Riley were not. Spike is loving, he’s loyal, and he’s devoted, even without a soul. When he gets his soul back, he retains these features and accepts centuries of trauma and guilt solely because it’s what’s best for Buffy. Yes, there’s Seeing Red, but if we discount Angelus’s terrible actions as “not Angel now”, can we not also look past evil deeds Spike did because it isn’t who he is anymore?

Personally, I’m a big Spuffy person, but I don’t think any of the three canon ships (or the several non-canon ones except for things like Buffy/Giles) are bad choices! BtVS has so many complex relationships and characters that it’s a real treat we can discuss such things in as much depth as we can! 😀
 
So I am usually a sucker for the soul mate storyline (i.e. I am a huge Joey/Dawson fan). I think the reason it doesn't work for me with Buffy/Angel is that they don't really know each other well (or at least it is not convincing to me that they did). Although Buffy definitely has issues opening up (even to her friends, Willow and Xander) - between the two of them - it almost seems like Angel is more closed off. (He seems to hide a lot from Buffy in the name of "protecting" her and perhaps he is so closed off because he doesn't want her to know about his Angelus past).

It is the same issue with Buffy and Riley but in this relationship - it is Buffy who doesn't want to share. For whatever reason, she did not feel comfortable opening up to Riley (I don't necessarily blame Riley - I think Angel hurt Buffy so much that she might have trouble opening herself up in general).

But with Spike, she shares so much. I am not quite sure the reason. It may be that he is perceptive (her comment to Angel that she can't continue lying to herself or to Spike "for some reason" when at that point - Spike and her were not even friendly). It may be that whispering in a dead man's ear doesn't make it real (like Spike sang in OMWF). I of course think it is because they are perfectly matched for each other. So that would be my ship of choice.

I am fine with cookie dough too but I don't see Buffy settling down with someone "normal." As much as she thought that she wanted that when she was a teenager, I think once she is comfortable as a slayer - she would want to be with someone "special" like her. I think about her comment about thinking love and passion go hand in hand with fighting (or something like that). Not to mean that she will only be happy in a miserable relationship but that she needs someone strong and passionate like her and that could fight with her (as that is a big part of her day to day life).
 
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